"The kids, when you'd see 'em have it all-in and neither one of them would have anything playing heads up and you understand that they know well he didn't have to have anything for his 3bet so I don't have to have anything for my 4bet. Well I know he 4bets light so let me shove on 'em with nothing and I know he shoves light because he knows I 4bet light so I'm calling. I used to laugh at it but now I understand it. That's how all that money would end up in there and neither one of them would have anything. It's all perfectly logical."In forum entertainment, there was some discussion between Fullstacks and Shortstacks on what a good winrate is when along came this little gem:
"Also, you claim 3bb winrate is not good. You realize that that's 15% of the effective stacks, right? If a 100bb player was winning 15bb/100, would you tell them their winrate was crap?... I'm pointing out that if you have only 20bb to work with, then 3bb/100 is good. You're generating 1.5 buyins per 1000 hands. If a fullstacker was generating 1.5 buyins per 1000 hands, you'd wet your pants in praise.
... It should be blindingly obvious that part of what impacts your winrate is the game you're playing. "Good" or "bad" winrate doesn't just apply across all games and stakes. What could be a"good" winrate for a high stakes badugi player is very different than what a "good" winrate for a micro NLHE player would look like."
I was wtfbbq'd into submission and have been summarily informed that SSers use effective winrates where the formula for quality of winrates is WR(fs) = WR(ss)*5. Yes that's right. A SSer winning 3 bb/100 is the same thing as a fullstacker winning 15 bb/100, bb = bb and $ = $ be damned. This is validated by the fact that SSers are playing CAP Holdem, a very different game than No Limit Holdem just as high stakes Badugi is very different from micro NLHE. 3 bb/100 is a good winrate if you're playing CAP.
* I apologize to any SSers reading this blog. Nothing personal. I am frustrated with structures and don't have any other outlet besides this blog so I have to vent now and then.
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