Tuesday, 27 November 2007

Update - Done with FTP for now

Wow I think FTP was a bad idea for me. The variance was absolutely rediculous and I ran absolutely horrible. Lost all 3 buyins that I made there yesterday within the first 15 minutes, 3 hands in particular where they hit a 3 outer, a 2 outer and set over set. Of course this is a good thing that they are calling when so far behind, but I can't stand that kind of variance where it seems like stacks are going in almost every other hand on very marginal holdings. I think I prefer the nitty Stars play style instead where I can gradually grind, so I'm heading back there right now.


  1. You definitely have to adjust here. I have found that overbets work better. You will still get people stacking off on you, but now it isn't with as random a holding as standard. Also, since people love to draw out, you have to try hard to get it in on the turn since they will fail to pay you off if you leverage bet every street up to and including the river. I have found basically that buying in slightly short, moderate overbetting, and getting it in on the turn manage to reduce variance quite a bit (this only applies to battling maniacs at the micros on Tilt of course, where my variance seems to be highest as well).

  2. Hey Derrick, thanks for the advice, I'll probably go back and try that in the next couple of days.

    Sounds like a good plan for the maniacs on this site. There are way more 50/30/3 players here than at Stars or Party, so I should be happy about that, maybe I just had a bad run.

    I think I'll actually go back there in the morning and test this out. Updates to follow.

  3. What I failed to mention was that the reason we aim to get it in on the turn is that these guys are "aggressive callers", namely that they will call with most any draw, with or without implied odds. However, if they hit and you leverage bet every street, leaving just enough for a good river all-in, you will often only get called if you are beat, as even these aggressive calling stations will fold the river. Basically they don't understand the idea of pot-commitment or implied odds well enough to know that they shouldn't be doing this. As such, you exploit them in places where they will still call, namely by forcing them to put it all-in on a gutshot or flush-draw on the turn. This way, your equity literally equals the number of times they will draw out on you, which will usually be very thin, rather than the remaining $3 or $4 you left behind to get a good river raise in that they never call with unless they just sucked out on you. Plus, with the overbets, only the maniac donkeys will still call and other TAGs/LAGs will steer clear. And believe me, they will still call.

    Basically, this strategy takes exploitative play to a maximum. Yeah, you might be betting your hand-value pretty often (which is often bad) and you might be a bit more tight than aggressive with this strategy, but how many 60/35/3.0's are going to notice that fact anyhow?

    Btw, this is Nsight7 of 2p2 if you hadn't already guessed it.